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Help With Super Spec Light Stalks And Multiplugs


geordie40

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Hi all

 

Im having real trouble with my headlight wiring, The sidelights work fine on the stalk but dip and main dont, if i supply 12v to direct to the 9 pin multiplug then they work (blue/white and red/white wires), the side lights come from the 3 pin plug with brown being the supply 12v and red to the side light.

 

Can the stalks fail? if so what sort do i have (pics below).

 

My lighting stalk connector looks to be wired

 

top left Blue/White

top right Red

below red Green (12v supply)

Below that Blue/Red

 

Theres also a black and red not sure what that one is or even if it does anything (horn maybe but dont use it)

 

I have searched through the forums and I think Im going round in circles

 

Do the lights have to be on a stalk (incl main) for MOT or can I wire separate switches?

 

Ive been on this for 2 nights now!!, the lights used to work before I started "dicking" about trying to get the dash to light up and main beam indicator to work which I got working last night but even thats stopped.

 

I dont think I have a headlamp relay and I cant see one on the SS wiring diagram is this correct?

 

Any pics, diagrams of other super spec light stalks and the 3 multi plugs would be appreciated

 

PLEASE HELP!!!!

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Thanks Alan, Ive got a feeling the dash rebuild maybe sooner rather than later, do you know if the main beam has to be on a separate switch as ive seen on car builders a off/on/on switch for side and dip and a single switch for the main

 

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/knurled-ring-toggle-switch-off-on-on-3-position

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/knurled-ring-toggle-switch-on-on-changeover-double-pole

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If you're going for a re-wire include relays for both head & dip beams --- saves the column switches carrying the heavy load & ensures headlights get full voltage due to shorter runs & heavier cables. Plus relays are just that --- a relay is easily replaced unlike a 20 something year old column switch, which is probably getting to be like hens teeth.

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We’ve decided that the Superspec column stalks are Rover but non-standard. They’re opposite handed and might be a special batch made for left drive export cars.

 

There are no relays for the main and dipped beams so full power goes through the switches. It’s a possibility they could have failed although not a known problem.

 

My light stalk switch has 6 wires from the connector blocks to these pins:

1 12v perm from brown in 3-way block

2 dip beam to blue/red

3 sidelights to red in 3-way

4 & 6 12v from purple

5 main beam to blue/white

7 not used

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Thanks Alan, Ive got a feeling the dash rebuild maybe sooner rather than later, do you know if the main beam has to be on a separate switch as ive seen on car builders a off/on/on switch for side and dip and a single switch for the main

Talk to your MOT Examiner, he is the expert.

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The MOT doesn't say anything about how dip and main beams are switched, just what results must occur. The key word seems to be 'immediately' - there mustn't be any lag or gap between the beam switching.:

 

* Dipped or main beam headlamps must immediately light up when they're switched on (depending on the position of the dip switch).

* Headlamps must switch immediately between main beam and dipped beam when you move the dip switch.
* Moving the dip switch must do one of the following:

- extinguish all main beam headlamps and leave on at least one pair of dipped-beam headlamps
- deflect the main beams to make them dipped beams
* Dipped beam headlamps can remain on or switch off when main beam is selected.

Full MOT requirements can be found at

https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/class3457/

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Well its amazing what a good nights sleep and a sunny afternoon can do!!

 

All sorted now, I cut off the 3 white multi plugs on the loom and wired them direct to connectors on stalks and hey presto it all works now. I even got a 2ndhand stalk assembly from local scrap yard, its from an mg tf , its the opposite way round but it still had part of the loom go a quick google told me what went where.

 

Happy days :good: :good:

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