Zetec-se Engine To Type 9

[Guest Takumi]

Hi,

I have just read that the Zetec-SE engine almost bolts upto the type 9, only 1 bolt hole is out of line..

 

Has anyone read on the net of adapter plates or different bellhousings for this engine to type 9. ??

 

I'm look into using a Z-SE engine maybe in the future..

 

Any ideas apreciated..

 

 

Tak

[Guest robin]

Hi Tak,

 

I too have a zetec se engine knocking about and have made some enquiries as to its future use.

 

To begin the type 9 bell housing doesn't even come close unless you want to start hacking and welding. The starter is on the wrong side, the bolt holes dont line up and you would have to do an awful lot of modification to the clutch mechanism including building a hybrid clutch.

 

A better solution is to try Shawspeed. They have a website which includes a parts and price list. They specialise in this type of conversion and can get you anything you need for the job including a specific bellhousing for a mere £250.

 

At the end of the day they will save you a lot of time and inevitably money.

 

Hope it is of some help to you.

 

Rob.

[Guest chris.childs]

Personally I used Shawspeed and very helpfull they have been too! always willing to help you out and try to answer any queries.

 

I've also noticed that BPJ Services are also now offering bellhousings etc. for the Zetec SE.

 

Don't know what car your planning to put it into but I'm putting one into my 2B (with sliding pillars) and I've had a couple of issues with clearance i.e water outlet on rear of engine fouls the chasiss rail going across rear of engine bay (i've made a new part), as does the original (focus) throttle body (although one of the fiesta ones comes out the middle avoiding this issue I understand - obviously doesn't matter if using webbers/individual throttle bodies).

Also the sump looks very close to the bar running across the front of the car underneath (between front wheels) - still to finally mount so only time will tell!

[Guest Takumi]

Hi,

Shawspeed are going to be at the stoneleigh show, so I may have a chat with Jon there.

 

I've always wanted to get my hands on a Z-SE since seeing one at the show last year.., since then I have started some minor gas flow work on a std Zetec 1800 head, which is now selling to make way for this new engine.. ebay anyone ??

 

Thanks

 

 

Tak

[Guest madmax]

I recently fitted a zetec se to my hood and it is now running. Shawspeed are an excellent sorce or parts and info for this engine and I thank them for the help given to me, however I did make my own adaptor plate to mate the engine to the type 9 bell housing. The adaptor can be made from 3mm plate and the bell housing needs a little modification. To fit the engine in my 2b I had to move the gearbox forward 2 inches and mod the chassis, but still had to modify the water outlet casting on the engine. A word of caution the crank in the se is set high in the engine block so the sump hangs quite low. If I did the job again I would definately place the engine as far forward as possible and lift the engine and gearbox as high as it would go. Fitting this engine in a 2b is not a simple job and I am currently looking into dry sumping the engine to gain ground clearance. I hope to have the car at stafford in march if anyone is interested.

Colin

[Guest Takumi]

Hi,

Did you use 3mm 'steel' plate for your adaptor, I guess you could use aluminium, but would need to be a bit thicker?5mm..

 

What type of clutch did you use, the std Z-SE one, or have the flywheel modifed for a different clutch, like the SOHC/Pinto 8.5" ??

 

Did the extra few mm of the adapter plate make a different to the engagement length of the input shaft ? - What type of clutch did you use, the std Z-SE one, or have the flywheel modifed for a different clutch, like the SOHC/Pinto 8.5" ??

 

All the ford FWD (burton catalogue specs) for the old zetec used the same 23 spline x 1" input shafts - same as the RWD type 9, do you know if the std Zetec-SE clutch has this spec 23s x1"?

 

lots of Q's, any help appreciated..

 

Tak

[Guest madmax]

The adaptor plate is actually 4.5mm thick and this is nessesary to allow the gearbox input shaft to fit into the flywheel spigot bearing without touching the flywheel. The clutch pressure plate is original ford focus but the friction plate has to be changed for an AP racing plate Number CP5352-5 originaly fitted to an MG and avialable From Questmead ltd Tel 08707450584. The clutch arm and release bearing are type 9 but the pivot pin in the bell housing has to be drilled out and replaced with an adjustable bolt to move the fulcrum point nearer the clutch plate. The bell housing has to be cut to allow the starter motor access and the odd bolt hole has to be drilled. Having made mk 1 adaptor plate if I made another it woud be better and require less mods to the bell housing. I do have the original wooden template if anyone wants to take a copy.

Colin

 

 

 

Piccy taken just after engine fitted, not finished Big Jim

Edited January 28, 2005 by Big Jim

[Guest Takumi]

Could you post a picture of your adapter plate.?? would be nice to see.??

 

I might see to have the flywheel modified (Coltec Race engines are in my Town..!) to accept the 8.5" SOHC clutch ? maybe?.. Then I guess the release bearing and arm might be retained. What do you think?

 

tak

[Guest madmax]

Sorry did not take any pics of plate.

Plate is easy to cut and also the top two bolts between engine and bell housing line up exactly simplifying location. I drilled the bell housing to locate the rest of the bolts, however if I did the job again I would weld studs onto the plate to match all the original bolt holes on both engine and bell housing to make the job perfect. I am sure that modifying the flywheel would be doable, allowing the complete sierra clutch to be fitted and the release bearing would work ok.

Hope this helpfull, Colin

[Guest Takumi]

Hi, nice photo, looks suprisingly big in the enigne bay..

 

Ill let you know how I get on with mine - rebuild I mean.. Turbo conversion?? hmmm

 

 

tak

[Guest rizla]

and still room for the battery

[Guest madmax]

The zetec SE adaptor plate I made was plasma cut by a mate Steve (NW Hoodie) and he would be interested to make more plates complete with studs fitted ready to fit. If anybody is interested please let us know, the cost would depend on quantity produced.

Colin

[Guest Takumi]

I'll let you know . I'm going to investigate using the pinto clutch assembly, see if there is room on the flywheel & if the height isn't too much. But first I'm gona re-assemble my block (opps. I broke a piston ring whlst removing 1 of the pistons :(:(: ) If you want some quick technical info, theZete-S owners club forum is very good, get quick replies. conrod bolt torque is 8NM +90deg.

 

http://www.zsoc.com

 

tak