Clutch Cable

[Mat-Moo]

When the TV moc came over for the day of chaos (article in next mag), there was some discussion about the clutch cable which fitted but never worked and we never progressed. I've looked at this a couple of times, and thought it was a quadrant issue (but I have red, the largest?) and tried all sort and still not got the clutch to work.

 

I've taken the cable out today and popped around to my local motor factors (closed due to staff shortages!) so no joy there Anyhow there is an attached picture showing the cable and the amount of free wire on it (27.5 cm from end of plastic to start of nipple). Can anyone confirm if this is the correct cable or not (2lt->5spd type 9).

 

Or any other ideas as to what may be wrong?

[Guest Daniel Aldridge]

Hi Mat,

With the clutch cable fitted can you feel pressure as soon as you depress the pedal or do you start to feel pressure after its been depressed a little, and did you change the ratchet when you changed the quadrant? I wasn't not too far from you this afternoon giving the hood a spin.

Danny

[Guest john]

Matt.

I've got a spare ( brand new ) cable at home. QCC 1408.

It has 22 cm of free wire on it.

 

Yours at cost if it works.

 

PS My quadrant is black,

[Mat-Moo]

That's quite a big difference, and could explain the issue! Although I wonder how many different cables there are for a sierra. The 1408 from what I can tell is for a 1.8... (how much?)

[Mat-Moo]

Hi Mat,

With the clutch cable fitted can you feel pressure as soon as you depress the pedal or do you start to feel pressure after its been depressed a little, and did you change the ratchet when you changed the quadrant? I wasn't not too far from you this afternoon giving the hood a spin.

Danny

 

 

Sorry Danny, not ignoring you - You should of popped in I was workign on the driveway. Help is still welcome (here comes tvt 2 the return of the hoods)! No the pressue doesn't seem there at all, I think it's the wrong length cable

[Guest Daniel Aldridge]

No problem Mat

 

Providing the self adjuster is working and you think it might be that the inner cable is too long (wrong cable) you could try temporary spacers (washers) between ether the buklhead and the outer cable or between the bell housing and the outer cable.If it works then obviously you need the shorter cable.If not the problem may lie elsewhere.

HTH

Danny

p.s Iv'e got a black one as well John !!!!!!!!

[Snapperpaul]

(but I have red, the largest?)

I bought a red 55mm off ebay but it was a quarter of a circle not the half of the sierra so bought a granada black 55mm one which did the trick, then added a cosworth 2wd cltch cable which goes past the manifold, secured by cable ties to the alternator bracket and back to the clutch.

I still have issues with spacing and currently have about 50mm of packing at the pedal end. Eventually, when i get it working properly, i will weld a tube of the correct length to the pedal box mounting plate.

Once you have got it close to how it should be you may get the adjuster to click several times as it adjusts up the slack, it was this last bit of adjustment that finally got my clutch to engage and disengage as it should, the difference in feel at the pedal was huge.

I still have bite point issues and feel that the thicker ( by 8mm) clutch release bearing QH133, i think, will finally do the job.

 

As a test bodge you could lay a bit of brake pipe in the quadrant cable guide to give a bit more pull.

[Mat-Moo]

This is my offending article? Should it stay or should it go!

[Longboarder]

Ditch. Ought to look like this with the cable sitting at the edge of the quadrant not down a deep groove.

 

Nigel

[Mat-Moo]

Well that would explain it then.... guess I'll try a new quadrant, then a new cable!

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=017 do the trick?

[Longboarder]

No. Don't think so. I'm sure there was an entry on Big Jims site giving the details. Pic of the one I fitted below. The groove is only the width of the cable deep and the tangs to hold the nipple are right on the edge. That one on ebay has the tangs part way down the side.

 

Nigel

[Mat-Moo]

http://nw.rhocar.org/clutch%20pawls.htm already read that, but they are ford part no's anf the ebay one is 3rd party.

[Longboarder]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Escort-90-95-Fiesta-...VQQcmdZViewItem

Choice of 55mm or 58mm pull.

 

Nigel

 

Sorry can't get the link to work. It's item 130046105119

Looks like the Escort 95> quadrant is the same but can't vouch for that.

[Guest robinj66]

Just to add to the mix - you could use a cable for one of the earlier Fords (Cortina IV/V, Escort II, Capri [?]) which have adjustment at the gearbox end. The nipple at the pedal end is different and you do have to widen the gap in the plastic ratchet slightly (or change the ratchet) but it allows you to get the biting point where you want it.

 

Something like this

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ford-nos-clutch-cabl...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

or this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Escort-Mk2-75-8...VQQcmdZViewItem

 

 

or cheaper

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Cortina-MkIV-P1...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Peter Bell]

The mark V cortina one is what I use, it is for the self adjuster arrangement and has a shorter inner then the sirra one so not too much additional spacer packing is required.

Peter