Evidence Required -- Safety Issues.

[fry61]

I have been asked by Steve ,our boss, to gather all possible information on RH/GBS propshafts.We need to know all the following :- kit type - purchase date - if part built,date kit was manufactured - date of SVA/IVA - total mileage since SVA/IVA to prop failure/onset of prop problem - type of prop failure i.e. tube twisted/bearings/spline - maintainance carried out during life of prop - & not quite finished yet engine details - type & size - tuning mods or standard - Horse power, book value or rolling road only please - diff ratio & finally are engine & diff. a matched pair; from the same donor. We also want the same info IF YOUR PROP HASN'T GIVEN TROUBLE please this is vital to ensure a balanced view of this safety critical issue. (I am not a mechanic so forgive any stupid Q's ;just put my hand up to try & help you & the club produce safer motors) regards Bob Fry.

[fry61]

& I've just thought it would be good to know what damage ( if any) was caused to car & occupants including laundry req!!

[Grizzly]

Thanks for this and here you go:

 

Kit type: 2B Plus

Date of Manufacture: Unknown

Purchase Date: November 2002

SVA Date: May 2007

Total mileage: 18,300 to date

Type of prop failure: NOT FAILED

Maintainance: UJs Greased at least annually

Engine Size: 2000cc

Mods: Foam Air Filter. 4 into 1 Exhaust Manifold

Std: Std apart from the above

BHP: 100 at the wheels (assumed 120BHP at the flywheel)

Diff ratio: 3.92

Matched Engine & Diff: Originally yes, but Diff was replaced a while ago.

[stevedohc2b]

Kit 2b DOHC

 

Collected Dec 2002

 

on road Oct 2003

 

2 li standard EFI engine 118 bhp

 

MT 75 gear box

 

diff from donor

 

Front UJ worn and gave vibration 30 thousand miles in 5 years

 

I never greased it as could not get to it OOPS

 

Replaced from GBS and new engine fitted with access hole cut nice and big.

 

OFF TO GIVE IT A GREASE

 

Stephen

[Mitch]

2b plus collected, dec 2001,

on road March 2003,

2,1 pinto, approx 120 bhp

front uj worn at 15-17k miles , rear slightly , both replacd as precaution,

NOT greased !!!

new ujs fitted local company, now greased annually,

 

HTH

Mitch

[Guest mower man]

Hi in answer to your request : 1CAR s/s mono S7 [not sure if it's series1 ,2 or 3]built some where between 94 and 96 2. Engine 2.1 pinto, std I think, ex 4into 2 into 1exhaust ,electric fans. 3.Miles approx 26,000 4HP 110 /120 ish 5.Prop modded by a firm in Leeds , no grease nipples are fitted [no holes in joints ] No probs in my ownership [98%of the mileage recorded] ,the car is not babied in any way but is not thrashed unmercifully.Prop probs i.e. vibs,early joint failure are more often caused by misalignment, or hamfisted joint replacement as bad lube practice in my experience [47 years on the spanners ] The car was orig built by aguy called Ian Pettinger in Pudsey Yorks ,and did v/little mileage before I bought it, since then ithas been to Le Mans 3 times and I drive it whenever I can.Hope this helps ,regards mowerman

[Guest Dee Jay]

Hi'

 

2B+ KIT

Purchased 04/06

SVA and Regitered 07/07

2000 DOHC EFi

Diff and engine/g.box from donor

no mods

Mileage- 1600

Greased anually

No problems or failures as yet

Nylatron spacer fitted between prop and g/box flange 18mm thick (produced by me)

Bhp - 110ish

 

Regards

 

Dave

[nicko]

Kit type: 2B Plus

 

Kit Purchase Date - October 2004 from factory

SVA Date - May 2007

Total mileage - About 5,000

Type of prop failure - NOT FAILED

Maintainance - Not greased yet!!!

Doner - 2.0i Ghia Jan 1989

Engine - 2.0i From doner

Dif - From doner

Gearbox - From Doner

BHP - Standardish

Diff - From Doner

 

Thanks, Nick

[fry61]

Thanks for the replies so-far ;if you could post them as per GRIZZLY's post it makes the reading & collating easier; keep them coming good & bad needed to give fair apraisal of this safety issue,regards Bob.

[speedtripledan]

Factory built 2B+ bought new from RH - sept 2006 (BIG MISTAKE)

SVA Date - sept 06

Total mileage - About 2500

Type of prop failure - NOT FAILED most other things have just not that.

Maintainance - Not greased yet!!!

Doner - sierra of some sort

Engine - 2.0 pinto bike carbs bestek etc

Dif - 3.92

Gearbox - ? type 9 5speed

BHP - 108@ wheels

 

on 2nd gearbox and 2nd engine so diff and box etc not matched from doner.

 

Dan

[Guest qwerty_100]

Thanks for the replies so-far ;if you could post them as per GRIZZLY's post it makes the reading & collating easier; keep them coming good & bad needed to give fair apraisal of this safety issue,regards Bob.

Hi Bob

I am a bit mistified here are we saying that certain props on RHSC/GBS delivered kits are defective and this has been initiated by a previous thread if so please read Lombarders comment and if this is a real HEALTH and SAFTEY issue maybe Steve as chairman should be contacting GBS direct as our representative to discuss this matter and pass on his findings many thanks. Kev

[philshelton]

as well as have or have we not greased it wot about number of F1 starts at the lights number of times rears light up as these are issues that may also effect the prop shaft reliability

[Guest bob13]

Kit type: 2B DOHC

 

Kit Purchase Date - December 2002

SVA Date - April 2008

Total mileage - With me about 300, not sure of previous owner and builder's mileage.

Type of prop failure - NOT FAILED

Maintenance - Not greased by me

Doner - 2.0i dohc 1989

Engine - 2.0i dohc not original

Dif - From doner

Gearbox - From Doner

BHP - Standard

Diff - From Doner

[niduncan]

Kit type: Series 3

Date of Manufacture: 1997

Purchase Date: Mar 1997

First MOT Date: Jul 1997

Total mileage: 23,000 to date

Type of prop failure: NOT FAILED

Maintainance: UJs Greased every 2 or 3 years

Engine Size: 2000cc

Mods: Megajolt Ignition, Foam Air Filter. 4 into 1 Exhaust Manifold

Std: Std apart from the above

BHP: approx 100 at the wheels

Diff ratio: 3.62 (has also been 3.38 and 3.92)

Matched Engine & Diff: No

Propshaft Manufacturer: Dunning & Fairbank

 

[fry61]

QWERTY, I have been asked by Steve;the Chairman; to run this post in view of the many various comments on the Propshaft problems post. It is my aim to get as many replies as poss, GOOD & BAD, so as to get an accurate assesment of the propshaft issue, Steve will then approach GBS for a view based on our findings; so please, one & all, give us your details & whether or not your prop has given any cause for concern. The more replies we get the more accurate this survey will be. Clunk - click - every trip - but not your prop we trust, regards Bob.