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Oh dear! Mabey should have looked into this before buying the car :(

 

Mistake has been made so now i'd just like to put it right, i wouldnt want to falsly sell it on again. The car is going to be used as a track car so probably wont see the road but just in case how would i go about getting the correct tests done on it? And how much do they cost?

 

The standard of work doesn't look bad, I wouldnt have bought it if it did! There are a few areas where you can see the previous owners have made temporary fixes and rushed jobs but they can be put right

 

If you put your area up, there maybe some locals to look your car over for IVA compliance.

 

As a rule, the IVA test is £450 with a re-test fee of £90. Then there is the registration fee of £55 + 6 months tax minimum.

 

Sounds like someone built this and re-used the duttons details - A definate no-no.

 

Simon.

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Sorry mate as other posts you have been really shafted no Dutton ever buit was a mono ,as far as I know RH wae the only one in a 7 type vehicle Iwould be on to the seller wanting my money back!!!,perhaps he's been shafted to ? my sympathies mower man

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If i have been shafted the seller had been too, he was a good guy, really helpful and did know his stuff, he bought the car intending for track use but only ended up taking his oldest son up to Alston & back a few times.

 

I'm located at Blaydon, Newcastle Upon Tyne. If anyone could call round and have a look at the motor that really would be great!!

 

I got the car at a decent price so i'm happy to pay the fees myself and make it legit, it might bring up some work for me to tinker with and make the car my own as the build and modifications are all more or less done!

 

For this being my first time on the forum i've got to say again, thanks for all the help! I'm generally used to VW forums where all you get is sarcasm and the odd bit of abuse!

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i agree kennedy weren't they escort running gear.shorely rh shell wouldn't fit that easily.

 

My dutton was a spitfire running hear wit the 1.6 xflow. Never had it on the road. I was sold that car as a runner but when I trailered it to an mot they said the chassis was bend and was too dangerous. After stripping all the panels off I found out that there were more rust holes than chassis the car was being held together by the panels. Parts of the chassis had been replaced but only welded on the sides the last owner must could reach so the metal had worped and changed the shape

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I'm located at Blaydon, Newcastle Upon Tyne. If anyone could call round and have a look at the motor that really would be great!!

 

 

I'm from Whitley bay and I don't mind popping along. I put my car through iva August 2011 so I have an idea what is needed but I'm not an expert. I'm currently on holiday at the moment and I don't mind popping along. I could ask a few others if they fancy popping over aswell to give different advice and knowledge.

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Hello Smitty - couldn't help but be interested in your post. From what I gather you don't need to go through an IVA test again with all the hassle. What you have is a Dutton, with Robin Hood body bits. Nothing wrong with that, though I can understand if you're miffed having believed you've bought a Hood. The car's details are what it says on the documents and chassis plate. It is registered - and if you look at askmid.com you will see your number comes up on the Motor Insurance Database as a Dutton Sportskit. So in my honest opinion it is not a ringer in the true sense because the details on the V5 are Dutton. It's not like it says Sierra - that would be ringing. And you're on a Q plate. It wouldn't get past registration if it was illegal. You can retax it, mot it, insure it, drive it on the road. You can even call it a Robin Hood if you like. It's like the Ferrari replicas based on a MR2 or Porsche body. It looks like a Ferrari, people may say 'Wow look at that Ferrari!" But it isn't and the telltale is on the tax disc. In my opinion don't go near the DVLA because you don't have to. Some jobsworth might start to make your life hell for no good reason. It's a Dutton. Just enjoy it for what it is and as long as it isn't looking like it will fall apart, Keep On Truckin'!

And welcome to the forums! :)

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In my opinion don't go near the DVLA because you don't have to. Some jobsworth might start to make your life hell for no good reason.
What you're saying is 'Unfortunately there are people working for DVLA who would recognise an illegally registered car, refuse to tax it and ask the police to investigate a possible fraud.'

The same 'jobsworths' at your insurance company may also cause difficulties if by chance you have to make a claim when the assessor says 'We insured you to drive a Dutton and you appear to have had a crash in a Robin Hood. Why would you think we should cover that.'

Your car is falsely registered. You have been defrauded by the seller if he represented the car as being legally on the road, no matter how nice a guy he seemed. Unless he was incredibly simple he will have known he was selling you a falsely registered car.

It will be difficult for you to correct. You cannot just present a car for IVA as an amateur build. You need to prove you built it with build photos and receipts for all the major and many minor parts. So you will have to lie and cheat to prove an amateur build.

Contact the seller immediately and ask for your money back stating he has sold you an illegally registered car. He might just refund you! Contact a solicitor.

 

Nigel

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Hmm having re-read the posts I may have to backtrack a little here... if what some of the other guys say, ie its details have gone on a new chassis off an old one, that would be difficult and dodgy and indeed a ringer as pointed out. You could check back on all the previous owners by going to the DVLA and requesting details of who owned it and when, and go back to them. Or try the Dutton owners club if there is one. I think it may be difficult to go down the IVA route as you don't have a donor car and documents, you don't have proof of kit purchase etc.

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I'm from Whitley bay and I don't mind popping along. I put my car through iva August 2011 so I have an idea what is needed but I'm not an expert. I'm currently on holiday at the moment and I don't mind popping along. I could ask a few others if they fancy popping over aswell to give different advice and knowledge.

 

That would be great if you could call along and check it out, I'm usually in from work at 5 weekdays and free all weekend so whenever suits you would be fine.

 

I'm going to get back in touch with the lad i bought the car off and see if he can shed any further light on the situation

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'I'm going to get back in touch with the lad i bought the car off and see if he can shed any further light on the situation.'

 

I would threaten to shed a bit of light on his situation. (I'm 5'4" in my cuban heels and built like spaghetti.)

 

Nigel

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Honestly, even if the car isnt legitimate i'm not too bothered as daft as that sounds!

 

I'm happy with the price I paid and i'm fairly happy with the condition the car is in, obviously i'd feel a lot better if someone with some experience gave it the once over and i'd like to know the full story of the car but this is the situation i'm in.

 

Using it on the road would be nice for the odd day out but its main purpose is going to be track use, thats what i origionally set out to buy

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For track use it will be ideal. The monocoque robin hoods can handle well and are lighter than the 2B. Strip some of the bling off the car and have a good look at ride heights, castor, camber, toe, some good shockers on and you will be impressed at how good it is.

 

Nigel

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