Help! Going Backwards! Starter, Inlet Manifold And Timing!

[Guest mcramsay]

As I said previously the last time I had kick back was due to the coil pack being wired back to front so the wrong plugs were sparking at the wrong time. Is the loom your using home made? If so I would get a diagram and pin out of the ecu plug, and each each pin to make sure it's going to the correct pin on the plug on the other end. If you are using the type 9 box did you fit a spigot bearing in the end of the crank?

[Guest mcramsay]

Also I'm not familiar with omen but on the emerald ecu you have to tell it what crank trigger you are using and what tooth pattern the flywheel is. I think the Zetec is 36-1, is this setting correct on the omex software?

[flameredturbo]

The loom is made by Harnessing solutions, I've checked and double checked the leads are correct. It's a brand new coil also. It has also run.

The spigot bearing is in also.

 

[flameredturbo]

Baffling really!

[flameredturbo]

Also I'm not familiar with omen but on the emerald ecu you have to tell it what crank trigger you are using and what tooth pattern the flywheel is. I think the Zetec is 36-1, is this setting correct on the omex software?

I confirmed with omex that the map is correct for the flywheel. I did think after though if it was possible to calibrate the sensor, as in set tdc or something like that.

 

We did discover some shocking electrics today though, if the ecu had an irregular switched charge/lost power mid crank would that cause these clunks??

[tractor]

if you get a random spark in a chamber when piston is on the wrong stroke and with fuel in chamber it will make some very nasty noises and not allways backfire

Edited March 29, 2014 by tractor

[Guest mcramsay]

Just a thought the starter solenoid is operating correctly? If you have a bad engine earth or poor supply these can click in and out, and they go with a clunk?

[flameredturbo]

Just a thought the starter solenoid is operating correctly? If you have a bad engine earth or poor supply these can click in and out, and they go with a clunk?

I'm hoping it is something along these lines, the clunk was definitely the flywheel and starter cog as the old starter mounts where broken from it happening.

[Guest Ian & Carole]

Back to the beginning!!!!!! are you sure the flywheel you are using is compatible with the starter ????

[flameredturbo]

Yup, retroford 1.8 zetec, drilled to take pinto clutch, starter is lrs707.

Edited March 30, 2014 by flameredturbo

[Guest mcramsay]

That's the same set up I used and had no issues. Any way you can post up a video of the engine making the noises?

[flameredturbo]

I've taken it all apart and the starter is boxed up ready to be exchanged as it was making it's own nasty sounds.

Waiting on some new wires and a new pressure reg so it's in bits. It sounds as if you are hitting the bell-housing with a hammer.

[Guest mcramsay]

Check your starter wiring. Ie the solenoid is only live on the 3rd switch on the ignition key. Should go back to zero volts when the key goes back to position 2. Also if there is a slight possibility you have damaged the crank sensor I would change it.

[flameredturbo]

I'm rewiring that part at the moment, I'll double check it's only live while I push the button.

I took the sensor of yesterday it looks as good as new seeing as it is I guess. Thanks for all your help.

[Guest mcramsay]

Don't let looks deceive you. There is no really way of testing a crank sensor without the correct equipment! They are not very expensive either.