Speed Cameras

[Guest daveg]

Stu

 

Those are the only 2 good stories I have....I have lost count how many speeding convictions I have 'cos most of them just want to give tickets

 

Dave

[Les Welsher]

Have a look at this on the pistonheads site about camera vans click here

 

Les

[Guest Chris.A.]

Do you really want to be admitting this in print on the public domain ?

 

You might find you have just written your own personal 12 month ban.

 

Remember the japanese guy who had an on board video camera to record himself driving a Ferarri at about 150 mph - he sold copies of the Vid on the net, the boys in blue bought a copy and used the visible speedometer as evidence to do him !

 

Feel free to ask a moderator to remove your posting !!!! ( Hint Hint )

 

Mick M (MODERATOR - HINT HINT ! )

That is a very sensible remark , Mick !!!

.when I think of the times I`ve very nearly,inadvertantly, exceeded the mandatory speed limits when coming home after another bank job.........

.........bugger ! ( I`ll get me coat )

[Guest Mr Pid]

You shouldnt really worry about that sort of stuff, the boys in blue have to serve a NIP within 14 days of a speeding offence and within 6 months in most other cases. This is to avoid any "reasonable doubt" which is the requirement in regards to the burden of proof.

 

There are a few exception ie. t**ts who video themselves doing it therefore no more proof is required.

 

Hope this helps any sleepless nights.

 

Stu

 

[Guest timswait]

Going back to the LCD idea, I don't think it would work either, the camera takes two pictures and it only requires your number plate to be visible in one of them for you to be caught (they'd also be fairly suspicious of why it was black in the other shot). What would work would be a radar jammer. The speed cameras send out a radio frequency signal which is reflected off the back of you car, doppler shifted by your speed and recieved by the camera. If you know what frequency the camera beams out you just need to beam this back to the camera at a moderate level, and it should drown out the camera's own reflected signal and read you as doing 0mph whatever your real speed, so the camera won't be triggered. Maybe this is getting a bit technical/expensive, how about a stealth Hood?

Also on the subject of camera's taking the number plates of every car passing through to calculate the average speed I heard this was "about to be used" about two or three years ago. I guess it hasn't due to the fact I (along with 99% of the population) haven't had a ticket from these machines. I also heard that it was the blue cameras with the aerials which were the culprits, but since found out that they are actually used by TrafficMaster, and nothing to do with DVLA, so I guess my source wasn't too accurate.

One ruse I heard of being used by a motorcyclist was to hang his number plate on a hinge so if you brake hard (as in S**T there's another bloody camera) the number plate goes up out of sight, a nice low tech solution.

It's OK for me at the moment because my Hood cooks itself if I cruise at over 70, so I don't have a problem with not speeding during the summer!

[Guest cjbailey]

A stealth hood would work, but be very difficult to implement. The best bet for a jammer would be to send the signal back at a frequency that would give a stupidly high reading as giving out 1 reading at 0 mph would be extremely difficult (it would mean the camera detects half your speed).

None of these would be any use on the island though (except for the hand held cameras) as we have a load of truvello (?spelling) cameras which have a series of strips in the road which reflect beams from the cameras and work out the speed by the time between the beams being broken. Not that I'd break the law anyhow!

[Guest daveg]

All

 

None of this will work. The camera takes 2 pictures 0.5seconds apart once triggered. If you set it off with a jammer then it will still flash twice and you are done

 

Dave

[Guest cjbailey]

The thing is, if you set the jammer at a stupidly high speed the camera assumes there is a fault and does not take any pictures at all.

[Guest Chris.A.]

Now, I don`t want to spark a big political debate or suchlike, (but this is the "chit-chat" board,....and it is a crazy old world we live in )but ..........

I live in Grantham and , at the moment there is a poor bugger ,a professional member of our ambulance service who is being prosecuted for breaking the speed limit on the A1. ! this poor man was on duty, driving an official vehicle,whilst on duty, and was taking a human liver to another hospital for an emergency transplant.....apparantly he had no police escort as they were otherwise engaged.

[Guest Julian B]

Hi all

 

To all of those who doubt my fantastic master plan with the lcd thing , yes you are all right it wouldnt work with photographic cameras but the m4 cameras i guess are electronic and use a ccd to capture the image. The future of all speed cameras will lie along the digital path untill we all have gps transponders fitted to our cars and then big brother wont need speed cameras anymore.

Anyone thought of putting silver on black plates on their car? i bet they are illegal as well.

[Guest Mr Pid]

Yeh those plates are liilegal unless your car is something like 150 yrs old- even so i think the DVLA is trying to get the old timers to swap them over to new shiny yellow ones!

 

Chris, i see you have the pleasure of the lovely new trevello cameras as well.

We have just had about 11 of the buggers go live in the local area of Portsmouth, just across the water, and they keep turning them round so you never know which way they will be facing! :angry:

 

the local charming residents of pompey have got their own very inventive solution of not being caught by the use of:

 

1) Sledge Hammers to said camera

2) Hacksaws to said camera

3) Jars of jam smashed on said camera

 

etc etc , think you get the picture. Not that hi-tech but effective to say the least.

 

Did you know that if every motorist contested every speeding conviction and photograph that was taken the system would collapse as the courts could'nt cope with the influx!

 

Stu

[Guest cjbailey]

Most of the truvello cameras on the island are fixed in one direction... they are all on hills where, if you aren't concentrating totally on your speed, you will be doing more than the limit. There are a couple which turn round, but they are in places that should have cameras (outside schools etc.). I haven't heard of any of them being vandalised as yet, but I am sure it will happen!

 

The camera's are a pain in the a*** cus they cause huge jams cus everyone goes past them at like 20 mph! I bet it isn't that long before the mobile ones get set up just past them!

[Guest Mr Pid]

Yeh i know what you mean.

 

Even though the minimum speed to set them off is higher that the speed limit people see to want to get out and push their cars through them!

 

For all of those who dont know the usual formula for speed camers calibration is:

 

Speed limit plus ten percent, plus 2-4mph.

 

This is partly to rule out dodgey speedos but also if they were all set to the correct limit they would not be able to cope with all the paper work. They usually set them higher than this ratio to cut down on paperwork!

 

Stu

[Guest daveg]

All

 

I think the purpose of camera's is to raise money by taxing us all...hence the positioning etc is chosen to maximise the probability that we will get caught.

 

Camera's and mobile (Police etc) traps should be used outside schools, shops, parks etc...not on the A3 etc

 

Transplant drivers should be let off! UNLESS they are driving dangerously...and there is NO suggestion this is the case with the above driver...how did he get on, does anyone know? I know someone has offered to pay his fine if he gets one.

 

Dave

PS I have been flashed a number of times but never received a ticket

[Guest cjbailey]

Don't know whether this is correct or not, but I was told that you are flashed once as a warning to tell you that you are over the limit (all be it only slightly) and then flashed a second time to say "We got you f****r!".