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Patt

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About Patt

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    Builder

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    Morpeth

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  • Car type
    2B
  • Full name
    Stuart Pattinson
  1. Patt

    Floor Strengh

    Hi Steve- I would do this no problem - but haven’t mastered the art of attaching images yet, sad I know. If you want to pm your email address, I can do it that way. Patt
  2. Patt

    Floor Strengh

    I have been in exactly the same situation as you - been building my 2B since 2003 I’m ashamed to say, however, most of the build was done in the first two years, and I only really got stuck into getting it finished over the last summer when I retired . I was really dreading the test as I had no photographic evidence of the build, however, I took it for the test in September, it failed but was pleasantly surprised at the small amount of work I needed to do to hopefully get a pass. It failed on - not enough brake pipe clips, no rubber grommets in the rear brake back plates, petrol pipe not marked as appropriate, exhaust needed protective edging etc etc. So getting to your question, One of the fails was in relation to the inner seat belt mounts needing to have a path back to the main chassis- I already had two pieces of 3mm angle running the width of the car, one above the floor and one beneath, bolted through the floor and both inner seat belt mounts also bolted through both angles. The tester wanted the upper angle welded to the chassis at each side as this would provide the strength path back to the chassis. This I did, plus I had the angle beneath the floor also welded to the chassis- I took pics of this being done as the upper angle ends are hard to see with the seats in. I did contact Kit spares but could not see how the floor strengthening panel would provide exactly what the tester was insisting on. Also on the way to the test the master cylinder decided to pack up - so he couldn’t test them properly. Fitted a new M/cyclinder and took the car back for retest last month and the tester was very satisfied with what I had done Re the floor strength and inner seat belt mounting. He also passed all the other bits and bobs. The brakes was another story, it failed on pedal travel and low performance on the rears. I rebuilt all the brakes with new parts in the early days of the build and thought these would be fine - not so. After so much time I should have really recommissioned the brakes at least, an expensive oversight as brakes mean a retest fee. I have stripped them all down, cleaned and lubricated with high melting point grease. Just need to get them bled now to get a firm pedal. I’m a bit ashamed as belt and braces stuff. Sorry this is a bit of an essay - just wanted to get across to you and others that getting the old 2B through the IVA is not the total nightmare some would have you believe. Patt
  3. Patt

    Brakes

    Thanks A/Z - I will fashion a gasket - and no problem Re the previous info, all food for thought.
  4. Patt

    Brakes

    Hi all - received a replacement master cylinder today from Brakes International ie BMC4052, fits servo perfectly and only needs brake pipes to be bent slightly to fit different outlets. This is not a problem as I fitted then originally with plenty of spare. This looks like a good replacement for the original one ie K0236 311809. The new M/c has come without a seal to fit between it and the servo, the seal on the old one is defunct- does this joint need to be airtight for the servo to work? If so I’m sure I can get one or indeed make something up Stuart
  5. Patt

    Brakes

    It’s a three outlet system - could you explain in a bit more detail how you mounted it remotely Thanks
  6. Patt

    Brakes

    Brake Parts is one of the companies I have spoken to and the only company I have found which lists the correct M/C which is the BMC4729 and as the web page indicates - is out of stock. I contacted them and they couldn’t say when they would get more, if ever! However, your post has prompted me to look at BMC4052 on their page, which is the same manufacturer and pipe entries are only slightly different. I will contact them and enquire if mountings are compatible - if so I will go for this one. Thanks to everyone- I think we may have a solution here Stuart
  7. Patt

    Brakes

    The braking system is totally stock 1989 Sierra 2ltr, discs front, drums to rear and stock servo, all taken from the same donor car. Have tried to attach images but they are being rejected because of size. Stuart
  8. Patt

    Brakes

    Yes I’ve heard the KA one is an option but it seems it’s not a straight swap - I was hoping to get a retest asap. In my many conversations with numerous motor factors and ford specialists, one guy told me that there had been 17 different m/c’s fitted to sierras over the years. I’m sure that amongst all of them there will be one which will do the job, it’s knowing which one to go for. The m/c ‘ that kit spares is different from mine. Stuart
  9. Patt

    Brakes

    Hi dan - thanks for the reply. Bled and better bled the system. It took quite some work to get a pedal, which may also be a sign of a failing m/c The kit was bought in 2003 and was put together by 2005 and then left untouched untilI I retired some months ago. All the brake slave cylinders were renewed but the m/cylinder was never touched- the car has stood for 13yrs! Yes I looked at the escort one but it looks totally different to mine which is much longer. However, if it fits the servo etc Im ok to adapt the brake pipes to fit. Im tempted to go for this as I am pretty stuck at the moment Stuart
  10. Patt

    Brakes

    Hi - as indicated on another post I have recently had my 2B through the IVA and it failed on a number of very minor stuff eg needed more brake pipe clips, covers for electrical terminals, coil needed a weather proof cover etc However on the way to the test station the brake pedal went virtually to the floor, it could be pumped and slightly got better but would go to floor again. Obviously this was one of the fail items, I was very surprised the tester let me drive it back home! As there was no sign of a leak and the level of brake fluid in the reservoir had not dropped at all I suspect the problem lay in the master cylinder. The master cylinder fitted is ford one part number K0236 311809. Here lies my problem as these appear to be unobtainable- I have searched the internet without success, I would rather fit a new item, however, would consider a overhaul kit to get though the IVA but these seem unobtainable also. Can anyone advise of another M/cylinder that will fit without a major rebuild, I seen the posts about fitting KA M/Cs but it looks like a fair amount of work to convert. Any help would be appreciated Stuart
  11. Patt

    Warning Lights Wiring

    You are the man longboarder, did as you suggested with my spare warning light- bingo! Working as it should. Tried a negative feed to the h/beam warning light, nothing, I assume that thr ‘bright six’ unit has a common earth as all the other warning lights work fine. I have wired up the spare and mounted on the dash, now all good. Can’t tell how immensely grateful I am for you help with this, many thanks Stuart
  12. Patt

    Warning Lights Wiring

    Just realised I can check this out without taking out my dash, I have all fuses and relays wired through to the bulkhead, presumably I can test this out on the switching side of the relay ie terminal 85? Stuart
  13. Patt

    Warning Lights Wiring

    Yes using the later column switches. I am fairly sure the feed for the warning light is taken from where the Sierra switch wire joins the loom, but I can’t be certain and I don’t remember exactly how I have wired the relays into the circuit OK dashboard out tomorrow (not a big job only four bolts) and will check this all out Many thanks longboarder
  14. Patt

    Warning Lights Wiring

    Hi- went through the process above as described by longboarder - both headlights disconnected and the warning light did not come on, dim or otherwise. Reconnected each head light in turn, warning light came dimly on both sides on dip. Checked beam pattern on garage wall and both headlights showing correct high/low pattern and increased light intensity on high beam. Checked headlight sub harness back to main harness, I seemed to remember I had to extend the wiring on the n/s as the V/G loom came up short on that side, however, all seems well and correct, blue/white for main and red/blue for dip. Checked power at each headlight and also fine, power both sides on dip, no power on h/beam and the same when checking the opposite. When disconnecting dip at the headlights the warning light acts as it should, ie fully extinguished on dip, on on m/beam and lights up ok when using the flash function. I have the Sierra switches with the lighter wiring, so have fitted relays in both dip and high beam wiring, checked these out and all seems well, ie power feeds to terminals 30 and 86 on each and switch wires to 85 resulting to power lights from 87. I then thought I would bypass the loom and use a fly lead to each head light directly from the relays, all working normally, both dip/high working as they should, but no warning light on the dash at all. I had bought a spare warning light in case the one in the ‘bright six’ was faulty so I used this connected to the temporary fly leads - would you believe it came on dimly on dip just as the one in the dash did - It is amazing that one little warning could cause so much bother Any thoughts on this will be gratefully received Thanks Stuart
  15. Patt

    Warning Lights Wiring

    Hi guys - checked wiring harness earth to chassis- all seems good. I have a full free day tomorrow so will go through the systemic approach that longboarder has suggested - fingers crossed Many thanks all Stuart
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