Pinto Efi Coolant Circuit

[peter_m7uk]

I found the Cortina single core in both my 2b's a bit small without the added capacity of a heater in the system.....

 

Personally I would sell it & get a Seat Rad with the boss in it for the fan switch. Only about 45 quid.

 

Look on http://nw.rhocar.org for pics of one fitted. Aluminium too.

 

Dan

 

Hi Dan,

 

The supplied radiator for the Lightweight is long and narrow to fit into the nose area and I think it

probably has more surface area than the Cortina one - I haven't heard gdc or diyer complain about

overheating. I like the look of the Seat radiator,

but would be slightly concerned about the width. It doesn't look wide, but the space in the LW nose

is pretty narrow. Who in RHOCAR has one, so I can ask them to measure it and tell me how many

cores??

 

I think I can see the boss at the bottom rear of the rad (there's a brown wire, anyway!) - Does the

switch come with the radiator for £45? Seems good value!

 

Pete

[Guest a8dyc]

Hi,

I have the Seat rad and no it doesn't come with the switch.I gotthe switch from a local Motor factors.I will see if i can find out where i got the rad from.I think i just Googled it and found a firm that had it in stock.Got it sent to me no problems.

 

Andy

[peter_m7uk]

Hi,

I have the Seat rad and no it doesn't come with the switch.I gotthe switch from a local Motor factors.I will see if i can find out where i got the rad from.I think i just Googled it and found a firm that had it in stock.Got it sent to me no problems.

 

Andy

 

Hi Andy,

 

Thanks for the reply. Any chance you could tell me the dimensions and number of cores for that rad,

or is it well buried in the nose cone?!

 

Pete

[Guest salty_monk]

Pretty sure it's a twin core & yes they do seem to be good value! If you search on Ebay there used to be a guy that sold them that had the spec incl dims in his ad....

 

This one has some useful stuff... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-IBIZA-VOLKSWAGE...7QQcmdZViewItem

 

This one says 660 wide.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-IBIZA-Mk2-MALAG...7QQcmdZViewItem

 

Here's the search link, several have dims on them...... http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll...+IBIZA+radiator

 

 

This is the one I think..... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-IBIZA-CORDOBA-M...7QQcmdZViewItem

 

Dan

[Guest gdc]

the rad that comes with the kit works

 

but it needs a cowling to make the air cool the water,

a shroud is rqd to make the air go through the rad and do its job .

you may also note that the supplied fan goes the wrong way, it requires turning arround and the fan body respacing to achieve this

cooling affect.

the way its designed is ok as long as you cowl the rad so the fan has to blow through the rad and the open bits at the top have been blocked off.

re spaqcing is easy .

remove fan

take out screws fit 6mm bolts and lock nuts re space motor back and fit nuts to lock in place re fit fan in reverse orientation.

.

basicly you are making the motor recede from where it was so that you can reverse the fan.

 

the rad has worked on the burton and the zetec.

[peter_m7uk]

Pretty sure it's a twin core & yes they do seem to be good value! If you search on Ebay there used to be a guy that sold them that had the spec incl dims in his ad....

 

This one has some useful stuff... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-IBIZA-VOLKSWAGE...7QQcmdZViewItem

 

This one says 660 wide.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-IBIZA-Mk2-MALAG...7QQcmdZViewItem

 

Here's the search link, several have dims on them...... http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll...+IBIZA+radiator

 

 

This is the one I think..... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-IBIZA-CORDOBA-M...7QQcmdZViewItem

 

Dan

 

 

Sorry, just getting back to this matter again. Comparing the Seat radiator from the NW site link

to this one from e-bay, they look identical. My main reservation (apart from the £85 price) is that it's for an 850-900cc car. Surely

that isn't enough to cool a 2.0 engine?? I'm speaking from a position of no experience, but can you really get away with that?

I do like the idea of having a built-in fan switch boss and being able to use an overflow tank instead of a complete circuit of coolant, but

I'm a bit wary about making this mod. Anyone know Steve Johnston, what size his engine is and whether he's had any problems? Looks

like he's got a Pinto, so it could be 1.6, but will it handle my 2.0 Efi with uprated cam??

 

Pete

[steve in stockport]

Hi Pete

 

I'm Steve Johnston and have been running the SEAT MARBELLA rad for over 2 years and 8000 miles to cool a 2 litre EFI pinto, including 2 trips to Le Mans.

Have just swapped to a vauxhall red top and so far - 8 miles seems fine and hopefully that is making the best part of 170bhp if not more.

 

Just be aware that the fan switch is at the bottom of the rad so the temp range needs to be lower than one for use in the top hose - check with local motorfactors for a suitable one.

If this struggles with the red top i'm going to try a volvo 440 non air con rad for the 1.8/2.0 as its nearly the same size, connections in just about the same places and made for the right size engine - cost £65 and yes the price for the ebay rad is over the top

 

Steve

[peter_m7uk]

the rad that comes with the kit works

 

but it needs a cowling to make the air cool the water,

a shroud is rqd to make the air go through the rad and do its job .

you may also note that the supplied fan goes the wrong way, it requires turning arround and the fan body respacing to achieve this

cooling affect.

the way its designed is ok as long as you cowl the rad so the fan has to blow through the rad and the open bits at the top have been blocked off.

re spaqcing is easy .

remove fan

take out screws fit 6mm bolts and lock nuts re space motor back and fit nuts to lock in place re fit fan in reverse orientation.

.

basicly you are making the motor recede from where it was so that you can reverse the fan.

 

the rad has worked on the burton and the zetec.

 

Hi Graham,

 

Yeah, I'd forgotten that you put two fans on your Lightweight! Do you still have the two fan arrangement

since you turned the blades to blow instead of suck? Seems like an easy mod, so I'll be doing that

Don't you think the LW nose area is a bit poorly designed for cooling as well?! It's all a bit cramped and

the air can't flow over the radiator so well. I was actually thinking it might be possible to go with that small

Seat radiator and put it right at the very front, then stick the fan behind it in the small gap where the radiator

normally sits (suppose I would need the sucker fan then). If it would fit then, although the rad is small, it

would get really good airflow to it. All extra expense, though, so I'd want to sell the supplied rad - Any idea

what it's from?? It says Visteon and gives part number AM92AB 8005 BC, but I can't find it on the net.

I would imagine I haven't much chance of selling it on e-bay if I can't say what it's going to fit! Problems, problems...

See you at Detling?

 

Pete

[steve in stockport]

Peter

 

google 8005 BC and it comes up with a ford fiesta rad with pics on the first link, is this the one you have?

[peter_m7uk]

Peter

 

google 8005 BC and it comes up with a ford fiesta rad with pics on the first link, is this the one you have?

 

No, but you put me on the trail with that suggestion!

 

I found this for a Ford Orion/Escort 1.8 diesel with part number 92AB 8005 BC (search was 92 8005 BC). I don't know why the leading "AM" is missing, but it looks very very similar to mine. I'd have to take measurements to be 100% certain, but I think that is the one. Seems to be worth a similar amount to the Seat one, so I think that solves the problem. Anyone got a leaky Ford diesel radiator to replace?

 

Thanks a lot, Steve