2b Pinto To Zetec Parts List

[Guest ickle]

anyone who wants to contribute to the list that has done this please go ahead

basicly i have a 2b running a pinto and a type 9 i have megasquirt 2.2 although not sure what it does yet and non servo brakes smiths clocks

i am looking for a full list off what i need to put in a zetec

prices hints tips anything

 

 

engine (which is best ?? 2ltr or 1.7, duratec or zetec)

clutch ?

flywheel ?

engine mounts ?

will i need a cat ?

is bike carbs the easiest/cheapest option

will i have to change my pedals ?

what else would i need from the donor sensors or switches ??

 

i probs wont do this while the summer is on the way but i would like to start looking out for what i need

 

thanks for any help guys

stuart

[Snapperpaul]

The Zetec inlet and exhaust are on opposing sides compared with the Pinto.

Duratec is a generic ford engine name, the one you want is the 2.0L from a Mondeo which is a Mazda engine.

[Guest smartfazer]

Paul, How do you know so much

 

Steve

[Guest ickle]

what sort o year should the mondeo be ??

[Guest whiz]

Pop round & see mine ya stupid bu$$er

 

Andy

[Guest ickle]

How's the zetec coming along ?

I am just thinking ahead. This probs be end o season conversion. Let me know when we are going for a run.

[Guest Alan_builder]

anyone who wants to contribute to the list that has done this please go ahead

basicly i have a 2b running a pinto and a type 9 i have megasquirt 2.2 although not sure what it does yet and non servo brakes smiths clocks

i am looking for a full list off what i need to put in a zetec

prices hints tips anything

 

 

engine (which is best ?? 2ltr or 1.7, duratec or zetec)

clutch ?

flywheel ?

engine mounts ?C

 

will i need a cat ?

 

 

is bike carbs the easiest/cheapest option

will i have to change my pedals ?

what else would i need from the donor sensors or switches ??

 

i probs wont do this while the summer is on the way but i would like to start looking out for what i need

 

thanks for any help guys

stuart

 

Hi Stuart,

 

 

Sorry you have asked too many questions so the options are endless.

 

engine (which is best ?? 2ltr or 1.7, duratec or zetec) With out a doubt the Mazda Duratec. But what gearbox are you going to fit it to? There may be megga cost so without knowing your finances who can tell if it is the one for you. What power do you want when finished? again costs influence opinion. Some will tell you the Vauxhall VX20

 

will i need a cat ? If you are going to IVA yes, with a Zetec or Duratec but not with a Pinto.

 

So most of your requested list depends on the engine chosen and the variant within that engine type.

 

Sorry for the harsh words. Best you search this forum for engine types and info on each installation type and also on other boards.

 

Alan

[Guest ickle]

Ok I hear ya.

My hood is on the road will I need a cat for next mot

Say I go zetec route

 

Engine - 200 max ish

Gearbox - my type 9

Clutch - 100 ish

Flywheel - ?

Mounts - ? Off the shelf ?

Exh Manifold - ?

Fueling - bike carbs easiest cheapest ?

 

What other mods need done to engine sump, alternator, starter ?

 

Just looking for hints and tips from those who have done it.

[Knock-on]

Ok I hear ya.

My hood is on the road will I need a cat for next mot

 

No. It will be on your cars age related plate and not the engine.

 

Say I go zetec route

 

Engine - 200 max ish

 

Silvertop or Blacktop. You might like to buy a cheap car and chop the rest in for scrap to make your money up.

 

Gearbox - my type 9

Clutch - 100 ish

 

Fine. Depends what flywheel option you go for.

 

Flywheel - ?

 

Probably 1.8

 

Mounts - ? Off the shelf ?

 

GBS do some Zetec for the 2B unless you want to move the engine back a bit and reweld the Chassis in which case make your own.

 

Exh Manifold - ?

 

As above

 

Fueling - bike carbs easiest cheapest ?

 

I would say something like a ZX9 set with a Megajolt is the easiest way.

 

What other mods need done to engine sump, alternator, starter ?

 

Spiggot and release bearings depending on what you do with Clutch / Flywheel. I suggest using the Pinto Alternator as it's a bit smaller and plenty man enough for a bare Zetec, shortened sump (?), pedals (?), Pinto starter fits Silvertop with small mod to Sump, fuel pump, take the pulleys on and replace the water pump with a reverse direction (escort?) and fit a V wheel for belt.

 

Just looking for hints and tips from those who have done it.

 

 

That should be enough to get you started

[Guest Alan_builder]

Ok Stuart,

 

Knock-on has given quite a good list for starters, however;-

 

As you have a Megasquirt 2.2, throttle bodies from a bike are no more expensive than bike carbs. You will get better fuel econnomy from injection than carbs. You will probably get better starting (Hot and cold) and you won't have a problem at the MOT or the need to keep the carbs in tune. Those with carbs love them, I don't, why have an analog system when you can have a digital one?

 

So the engine, low mileage 2L Zetec with a target price of £130. Silvertop or Blacktop? Blacktop may have more potential HP, but it has additional difficulties, sump and waterpump. The blacktop sump is stronger as it has an integral windage plate, this makes shortening the sump more difficult., again fitting a starter to a type 9 gearbox needs a Cortina bell housing or an Escort Mexico bell housing, the latter is aluminum and lighter. You will need an adapter ring and a starter from an automatic.

 

Flywheel, from a 1.8 as it's lighter without the cost of machining.

 

Clutch & pressure plate, Pinto. You will need to re-drill the flywheel but now you have a clutch which is good for over 200BHP. You may chose a hydraulic clutch or not, nut you will need the matching thrust bearing for whatever clutch and plate you mate to your type 9.

 

Without photos and possibly and inspection we can't answer the pedal box question, you can't use a close coupled brake servo.

 

Altenator, most people opt for one from a fork lift truck as they are smaller.

 

You will need sensors from a GM vehicle to match your megasquirt or you will need to change the sensor parameters to match the Ford ones.

 

Air filter. Water pipe, petrol pipe, swirl pot, remote oil filter (depending on steering rack).

 

So it's quite simple really.

 

Alan

 

 

[Guest ickle]

wooooow you guys know yer stuff thank you for everything so far guys

alot o food for thought here

 

i do like the idea over throttle bodies but megasquirt is scaring me a bit at the mo

only had a quick look through the manual and net and it is working perfect at he moment but looks complicated

 

it maybe a rs2000 bellhousing i have it is meant to be a rs2000 flywheel in there

 

 

thanks again so far

stuart

[Guest Alan_builder]

wooooow you guys know yer stuff thank you for everything so far guys

alot o food for thought here

 

i do like the idea over throttle bodies but megasquirt is scaring me a bit at the mo

only had a quick look through the manual and net and it is working perfect at he moment but looks complicated

 

it maybe a rs2000 bellhousing i have it is meant to be a rs2000 flywheel in there

 

 

thanks again so far

stuart

Hi Stuart

 

 

Megasquirt is a bespoke computer, having inputs and outputs to interface to the car. The Kernal (OS) is organized to read and adjust the engine controls for you. It need some basic graphs so it knows what to do. If you fit a wideband O2 sensor and record the settings on your laptop while you drive it automatically adjusts and produces the graphs for you and logs then to your computer. Unless you always drive with your laptop when you turn off the engine megasquirt 2.2 looses all the acquired settings, you need Megasquirt 3 to remember them. So after a long run of mixed driving you load the saved data from your computer back into the engine map (graph). Remove the wideband sensor for later and you can run with a narrow band O2 or no O2 sensor. Have a check up with your lap top prior to an MOT and that side of things will be no problem.

 

 

I am sure lots of people shy away from injection because of the ECU thingy simply because they don't understand them and so convince themselves that carbs are easier. All the bike guys I know who have carbs are forever fiddling with them, just as I did with my carbed cars.

 

To use a type 9 bell housing with the blacktop Zetec engine the wavy joint between the aluminum upper and steel lower part of the sump interfere. you either need a silvertop sump or a bell housing with an offside position for a starter motor. Even the silvertop sump needs some mods to miss the starter and both sumps need shortening.

 

Alan

[Knock-on]

I can't remember what Starter I used on my Silvertop. It was a case of which fitted closest and then set to the side of the sump with an Angle Grinder. However, I wouldn't do this unless you're pretty handy at Ali welding as it's a bugger. Shortening the sump is a piece of cake compared.

[Guest Alan_builder]

Hi Stuart,

 

Please see another thread in the engine section - Zetec Blacktop Sump

 

As I write you will see from my latest post I am checking Femi's comment which says you can fit a starter to a Blacktop sump and type 9 bell housing on the nearside while I found it impossible.

 

Contributors to sum question please use the Zetec Blacktop Sump thread.

 

 

[Guest Alan_builder]

I do have a design and manufacturing facilities for a spacer to bring the starter to the correct place for flywheel dog engagement.

 

Alan