Rover Sd1 Daytona Replica

[Guest Classicman]

Hi Guys

 

I'm a dealer in Canberra, Australia. One of my clients has asked me to sell his car for him, and as I don't know much about these cars, I thought I'd ask the experts. This car was brought to Australia from the UK many years ago and never registered here. The owner believes it was the second car built. Here is a link to some photos of the car:

 

http://www.affordableclassics.com.au/classic-cars-for-sale?product_id=74

 

I would appreciate any information that you could help with on the car and its build, as well as an indication of what a car like this is worth please.

 

Thanks in advance.

[tractor]

unfortunately probably worth a lot less than you think not being registered means if it was in England it would have to pass an iva test and with it being made in the early 80,s would need a lot of work to get it up to the standard required for the current iva test

don't know anything about Australian tests or registration

[Guest janis]

He said not registred here..in australia so might be still on english reg..

[Guest 2b cruising]

He would still need all the original documentation if it was registered here before sva.

[Dean Roberts]

Ruff idea of the prices going in the states on newer versions of the kits:

 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C584334 - ASKING $59,000 US DOLLARS

 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C663636 - Basic shell - "ASKING $11,999"

 

One on evil bay and reserve not meet yet...: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-Kit-Makes-Ferrari-Daytona-/182201578432

 

Modern turnkey versions based on Datsun available @ $19500

Or

Corvette versions going at @ $69,500

 

If its all above board and completely road legal on the UK market, then here is a few - http://www.newsnow.co.uk/classifieds/cars-vans-for-sale/ferrari-daytona-replica.html

Looks like a non-R-Hood version 1981 model is going for around £19,000

 

A Ferrari kit based on a donor Ferrari??? - going for £55,000 in 2010 https://replicars.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/southern-roadcraft-ferrari-daytona-replica-for-sale/

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Majorette-Ferrari-364GTB-4-Daytona-Red-1-24-Scale-Model-Car-/131877756543?hash=item1eb486de7f:g:e0YAAOSw2zlXh9VL -

(£25 in the UK)

....and yes I was being sarcastic about the UK market

A more realistic UK price is shown here: http://www.classiccars.co.uk/ferrari/365gtb_4_daytona/advert/10520

(just add a couple of zeros on the above price - £25,000)

 

 

 

This is the closest I can find to the same engine based model in Netherlands and was in the auctions at a reserved price of £68,714

So the prices really vary a lot on the background information and how legit the car really is:

http://cars.trovit.co.uk/index.php/cod.frame/url.http%253A%252F%252Fwww.classicandperformancecar.com%252Fferrari%252F365%252Fferrari-365-gts-4-daytona-recreation-1973-in-london-london-united-kingdom%252F163021%252Fad%253Ftrv_cid%253Dd135b7b31dd7b8568192faf8563a6e65b2dabeaa/id.1hYjD1Q1o1s1N/what_d.ferrari%20daytona%20replica/origin.2/section.1/section_type.1/pop.1/

Edited July 15, 2016 by Dino

[Dean Roberts]

An immaculate V12 version went in 2014 for around £38,000:

 

1974 Ferrari 365 Daytona Spider by E G Autokraft

 

Sale price: £45,000.00 make an offer
Last update: 13.11.2014

Pending offers Date: 2014-11-18
Ebrahim (from London) offered 38000 gbp

 

 

Edited July 15, 2016 by Dino

[Guest 2b cruising]

Dino mate.

Thought you were. Very busy lad with a full workload.

Just goes to show how overworked you really are. LoL

I'll send the time and motions man around eh.

Or do you work for the government.

[Dean Roberts]

Dino mate.

Thought you were. Very busy lad with a full workload.

Just goes to show how overworked you really are. LoL

I'll send the time and motions man around eh.

Or do you work for the government.

 

Multi tasking mate (a rare commodity in this day and age).

You forget , my trade is computers.

.......So 10 mins on google and a quick cut and past while upgrading the cisco network is feasible.

 

Hence the PC screens and not a tablet, when my desk looks like this:

Edited July 15, 2016 by Dino

[Guest 2b cruising]

Only taking the p mate.

I know you get periods of waiting, as in most jobs.

[Guest Classicman]

Thanks for the information so far. The car was originally registered in the UK, but never registered in Australia. I'm pretty sure that all the original documentation is with the car, but will check.

 

Any idea how many SD1 based cars were built?

[Dean Roberts]

Daytona replica club information: http://daytonareplicaclub.moonfruit.com/#/rh-engineering/4585376718

 

Important stuff highlighted:

 

Richard Stewart was the owner of Robin Hood Engineering located (obviously) in Nottingham. He first decided to make a replica as far back as 1984. With a background in body repair, restoring classic cars and making 'one offs'.

 

ROVER SD1: The first models were based on a Rover SD1 and all metal. This was a major engineering remake. The rear two doors were removed and the rear axle moved forward to obtain the dimensions of the original. Coil overs were added as much of the weight was removed and to lower the rear end. The Rover's fuel tank was moved to the boot. Steel metal covered the join. This work took around 12 weeks. Large amounts of tubing and strengthening was added so there would be no 'scuttle shake'. Full conversion including the leather remake was £8500 plus VAT. Not surprising really due to the vast amount of work involved. The original V8 was sufficient enough to propel the car along nicely although the sound was not quite right.

 

JAGUAR/DAIMLER: However Stewart wanted a more accurate model so developed the RS Daytona. Approximately 40 cars were made in total.
Unlike other replicas of the time the RS utilises the Jaguar floorpan which is shortened. The bulkhead and chassis is also retained. Jaguar spent millions developing and testing the base car so why change it? Welds are a common failure on ladder frame chassis cars. Stewart was so convinced it the safety and strength of his cars he gave a 3 year unconditional guarantee! Completed cars were offered at £22,000..a lot of money at the time but testament to the quality of the product. In fact Martin Lilley the owner of TVR at the time ordered one of these in red with beige leather and chrome wires. Later it had an upgrade to getrag 5 speed manual. Total cost £25000. This vehicle is now owned by a member of the club.

 

The finished product was fautless and millimetre perfect dimensions. Original Ferrari windscreen is used. Wheels were Compomotive alloys or MSW chrome wires, with 215/70 x 15. Double duck hood to original specification. Pop up or plexi-glass headlights. Doors have massive side impact protection in them. Fibreglass tonneau cover hinges in the middle to allow it to fit in the boot.

 

 

 

Maybe contact GBS direct and see if they have any history.

I believe the original owner of RH Engineering is retired and still lives in Nottingham.

Edited July 15, 2016 by Dino

[Guest Classicman]

Thanks again. I contacted Richard Stewart and he mailed me back saying that he was 70 years old and can't remember the early cars.

 

This car has what looks like the original Rover chassis number stamped on the left side inner guard, and on the right side inner guard, it has "PROTO2" stamped. Looks like this was the second prototype built. It was originally read and repainted blue by the previous owner.

 

I'm waiting for the file of receipts and documents for this car which I will hopefully get tonight. Apparently has the original sale brochure as well.