Provenence

[Guest Liam]

Hi All

 

I'm finally getting started on my rebuild and have some questions in my mind about where my Exmo came from......

I bought it pre-built, about 6 years ago from a Land Rover dealer (?) in Huddersfield. I was told at the time it was built for a "lady driver" by a local garage in Wath-upon-Dearne, and that it was a Sierra doner with a 1.8 engine. Now I have started to dis-assemble the car I am beginning to doubt what I have been told.

For a start I am inclined to think the doner may have been a Capri. does anyone know if Capris were ever used as a doner for an Exmo?

And if it was built in a garage - I wouldn't want them to service my tintop.

Is there a way to check with the DVLA what the original car licenced on my plate was? My Logbook says RH Sportscar 2 seater...

 

Oh yes - Happy New Year to all...

[swan]

phil

 

You can get the history of previos owners for your car from the dvla fee paying service .The cost is £5.

They had trouble finding some documents but were eventually able to supply paperwork with all the previous owners names and addresses for our car which totalled 11 .

It started its life in Glasgow, then on to Carlisle and Penrith area before turning up in Taunton where it was then bought by the guy that built the car. It even listed the engine change and copies of the built up inspection forms. (pre SVA days)

 

HTH

 

SWAN

Edited December 31, 2004 by swan

[Guest Bazwaz]

Phil,

All Exmos were based on the Sierra. What makes you think yours was based on a Capri?.

Barry.

[Guest Liam]

Thanks Swan - I'll give the DVLA a bell next year...

 

Barry - The engine is supposed to be 1.8 - but it said on the original V5 that it was a 1.6. I have to check the engine ID plate. Was there a 1.6 sierra?

The rear drum breaks look too small for a 1.8 sierra. I worked on the build of a series III and the drums were much wider.

The master cylinder has only two break pipe oulets not four and seems a different shape to the Sierra.

 

maybe I'm wrong........? I just would like to be sure before I start swapping bits about..

 

Cheers!

[Guest salty_monk]

There was both a 1.6 Sierra & A 1.6 Capri...

The master cylinder may not be from the donor.. it could be another they used that fitted or an alternative supplied with the kit.

Pretty sure mine is from a Mk 5 Escort & came as part of the kit so you never can tell!!

Not sure if Capri Axles were ever used although I know of at least one that upgraded from the 1.6 donor to a 2 ltr from a Capri as engines are near enough identical... Whatever size the drums are I'm sure they will be adequate, (although I would think all Siearra drums are the same size for cost reasons plus the 1.6 wouldn't be anylighter than a 1.8 anyway... perhaps the bigger ones you have seen were on an Estate axle??) the cars have more brakes than they need anyway - don't forget they would have been used to stop double the weight in a Sierra...

 

You always find bodges & bits you want to change on a prebuilt kit... I've spent the last 6 months re-building bits of mine...!! (oh yes, mine was built in a garage by a mechanic too!! Can't imagine there are many female hood owners so if true yours is a rarity!! ) Good luck!

[Mitch]

Hi Phil

 

My doner for my 2b was a 1991 1600 lx, Ford used all the pintos, (1300,1600,1800,2000) in the sierra, if you look under the back you should see a sierra rear axle,

 

As for the rear drums, the 1,6 i used did have slightly smaller rears than a 2,0ltr

(not a problem it still stops very well)but as for servo, mine has three outlets, one for each of the front and one to the rear.

 

engine may have 165, 185, or 205 cast onto the side these stand for 1.6,1,8 or 2.0ltr. should be on the drivers side of the block.

 

Hth

 

Mitch

 

Can't imagine there are many female hood owners so if true yours is a rarity!! 

careful Salty, i can think of at least two

Edited December 31, 2004 by Mitch UNplugged

[Guest piddy]

Hi.

There were 1300 OHC, 1600 OHC, 1800 OHC & CVH, & 2000cc OHC engines fitted to the Sierra. And yes there were other engines I.E. V6 etc

 

Front brakes Solid discs on 1300 & 1600

Vented discs on 2000 I dont know about 1800

 

Rear brakes 8" drum on 1300 & 1600

9" drum on 1800 & 2000

Discs on later models

 

Same sizes on Cortina's so probaly the same on Capri's

Cortina Master cylinder only has two outlets, it then gos to a junction box which has three outlets.

 

Have a look at the back of the car Has it got a solid axle? (Cortina /Capri) or has it got a final drive with drive shafts? (Sierra)

 

I hope this is of some help.

Happy New Year.

[Guest Bob's Babe]

on a side.....sorry... there are several girlie hoodie owners out there,

a few are also club members in their own name

and not just some blokes "bit"!!

SUE

 

ps: enjoy your new year celebrations!

[Guest Liam]

Thanx Salty, Mitch and Piddy...

 

Just checked - 185 is cast on the engine - so it is a 1.8.

 

Yep the master cylinder has 3 outlets

 

Just off to look at the back axle...... better take the camera with me.....

[ibrooks]

The camera should be un-necessary - the Capri and Cortina both had live rear-axles (the diff is in a case which runs the width of the car and the rear-wheels hang from the ends of it). The whole lot moves with the suspension. The Sierra's all had independant rear suspension - the diff is bolted to the body and the drive-shafts are exposed. The drive-shafts have flexible joints at each end and the wheels hang from semi-trailing arms which move independantly from each-other.

 

I doubt it's Capri based but just possibly Cortina (still doubtfull though).

 

Brakes - there's very little in the way of a hard-and-fast rule to tell what they came from. Earlier smaller engined cars tended to have smaller brakes. My 1.6 donor had the same rear-brakes as my 2.0i daily driver but Mitch's later 1.6 donor has the smaller brakes. If the donor really was a 1.8 then you're into even less certain territory as they were a mish-mash car (the engine was a mixture of 1.6 and 2.0 bores/strokes to take advantage of tax brackets in certain countries). Ford wouldn't slow down production if they didn't have a stock of the 'correct' parts so long as they had something that would fit instead. Later on they tended to standardize across the range but as per Mitch's car you can guarantee nothing.

 

Engines - the Pinto is the same basic engine in lord-knows how many different cars (and it even forms the basis of the Sierra and Escort Cosworth lumps). If it's a 1.8 then it's almost certainly a Sierra lump as I don't think the 1.8 found it's way into and English Capri's or Cortina's.

 

Have fun.

 

Iain