Be Warned

[Knock-on]

you can make calls completely hands free no problem - voice activated - I've got a Nokia kit fitted and it's ideal - no hands

 

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Well, I paid a lot of money to have a Blue Tooth stereo fitted to mu car. You still need to press a button to activate it before you can use voice activation and another to terminate the call.

 

Can't see how this would work otherwise as the line would stay connected?

 

As more and more controls get built into the steering wheel, at least you wont have to take your hands off to press the button on the Stereo.

[Guest alan rowe]

yes you are right but you don't have to touch the phone !!!

[Knock-on]

yes you are right but you don't have to touch the phone !!!

 

See what you mean.

 

Where is this going to end? It's dangerous talking into a phone while driving. I'm sure it's also dangerous trying to light a fag, change radion channels, scratch your bum and pick your nose (preferably not with the same finger)

 

Yet, someone that drives with no documentation whatsoever in a dangerous car, is not penalised whereas someone that has made every opportunity to comply with the law is.

 

And I don't even read the Daily Mail (Rant over)

[Guest Stuart Ainslie]

I run hands-free via my TomTom 510 on Bluetooth.

 

Wonder how the law feels about messing with what is essentially a replication of a phone keypad on the TomTom screen?

[Guest Dredd]

Yet, someone that drives with no documentation whatsoever in a dangerous car, is not penalised

 

Err.... yes they are. They just need to be caught and with the computerisation of the DVLC, MOT, Insurance etc they are more often.

 

Please remember that often, new laws are passed by 'civil servant experts' with little consultation with 'practitioners' and so it is not unusual that anomolies exist.

[Knock-on]

Err.... yes they are. They just need to be caught and with the computerisation of the DVLC, MOT, Insurance etc they are more often.

 

Please remember that often, new laws are passed by 'civil servant experts' with little consultation with 'practitioners' and so it is not unusual that anomolies exist.

 

I appreciate that it they are a law abiding citizen with the car registered to them etc, then they are penalised for any discrepancy.

 

However, there are thousands of cars out there that people buy under a false name and which they have no intention of legalising the vehicles.

 

If they are caught, the chances are they get a producer which they ignore anyway.

 

Surely, if someone has a defective car, with no road tax, the chances are they probably wont have insurance etc either. Why not impound it straight away?

[Big Jim]

I appreciate that it they are a law abiding citizen with the car registered to them etc, then they are penalised for any discrepancy.

 

However, there are thousands of cars out there that people buy under a false name and which they have no intention of legalising the vehicles.

 

If they are caught, the chances are they get a producer which they ignore anyway.

 

Surely, if someone has a defective car, with no road tax, the chances are they probably wont have insurance etc either. Why not impound it straight away?

Ok guys, just to put you right, any car stopped by a traffic cop, is checked out on the PNC, if there's no insurance, or the driver doesn't have a valid driving licence, then the vehicle is impounded, the driver gets to donate to the funds etc. and only has a certain amount of time to retrieve his vehicle. to do this he must produce a valid insurance, MOT & drivers licence at the cop-shop (for the vehicle and whoever is going to pick it up) he then gets an authorisation note to take to where the vehicle is being stored, were he then has to pay the recovery charge, plus storage fees of £xx's /day. it soon is cheaper to let it be crushed!

I'm not 100% sure about no MOT, as they aren't all on the computer yet, but soon!

At the moment I'm told that no road tax doesn't bring down these measures, but it soon will.

Very few producers are given out now.

 

I can tell you that cars are being taken by the BiB at a brisk rate around our area, It's great to watch the scrotes have to walk home after being thrown out of the recovery truck (escorted to the next junction by BiB)

 

Power to the BiB's elbow, I say, these are the type of people that'll drive you off the road and think nothing about it!

[enforcer]

Surely, if someone has a defective car, with no road tax, the chances are they probably wont have insurance etc either. Why not impound it straight away?

Aw Jim, ya beat me to it!

 

Getting rather tired of saying this ..... the police will now seize any uninsured vehicle or any vehicle driven by an unlicensed driver on the spot thanks to new powers under the Serious and Organised Crime and Police Act. In Telford alone we have siezed in the region of 1000 cars. To get the car back the driver has to pay a recovery/storage charge of about £150 and must be able to produce valid insurance. Most of these cars are heaps anyways, or 'burglar buses' and go unclaimed. The garage then can do what they want with them to reclaim their expenses. And yes, this goes for mini-motos as well.

 

The clip referred to earlier in the thread was from a Thames Valley unit and is several years old, certainly predating the recovery powers. But in my opinion, yes they were far too lenient with that driver, who was probably under the influence of Class A. That particular series was a bit too cowboy gung-ho for my taste. (When I was TVP traffic my crew-mate and I were filmed for 2 weeks for 'Blues and Twos', a much more up-market production

 

If a car is insured but in a dangerous condition it can be 'prohibited' from further use there and then; but not seized.

 

There will always be incidents where the occasional 'law abiding' driver gets stuck on for a seemingly minor offence, but as with speeding, if you are commiting the offence you have to accept that there is a possibility that you will get caught.

 

Incidentally there is an ongoing case in Telford at the moment which is causing much debate. A cyclist was prosecuted for 'Careless and Inconsiderate Cycling' by refusing to use a cyclepath parallel to the road and using the main carriageway instead. Because it was a 60 mph governed by a double white line system the following traffic could not overtake and had to travel some considerable distance at the cyclist's speed. The cyclist was convicted at Magistrates Court and has appealed against the conviction. The local cycling community is in uproar and of course the old 'haven't the police got anything better to do, like catch rapists and burglars' can be heard all around.

[Guest stu205]

Incidentally there is an ongoing case in Telford at the moment which is causing much debate. A cyclist was prosecuted for 'Careless and Inconsiderate Cycling' by refusing to use a cyclepath parallel to the road and using the main carriageway instead.

 

Bloody good on the BiB!!!!!!

[Guest carl leonard]

Keep up the good work.

 

At this rate, traffic congestion may become a thing of the past!

 

Carl.

[Guest micky bigthumbs]

i think i could put up with the mini moto's just get rid of the cyclists on the road and JCB's also the two articulated lorries that always try and pass eachother when they are going uphill on a motorway and find that they cant pass no one gives in so they block two lanes for 5 miles

[Guest salty_monk]

Nothing wrong with the cyclists... mostly anyway

[Big Jim]

Nothing wrong with the cyclists... mostly anyway

 

Aw come on Salty! now you are talking through your exhaust pipe!

They completely flout the laws of the road, wrong way down one-way streets, ignor trafficlights, ride on pavements causing all the Grannies to jump in the road, very rarely have lights on when it's dark, and wear dark clothes just to make it worse, have no insurance at all, so when they hit you, tough sh1t! sort it out yourself! and there's nothing better than coming across a gang of licra-clothed idiots on a country lane riding 2 or 3 abreast, they NEVER move over to let you past.

 

no, bikes are the next thing that I'd like to see crushed!!!!

[enforcer]

[Guest micky bigthumbs]

Move over tony blair big jims got my vote We had a cyclist riding the wrong way up the M5 he then crossed to the other side of the motoway and rode the wrong up the hard shoulder to J1 M5 wrong way round the big island got off his bike and walked away,,,caused traffic nightmare traffic jams..hours to get to work .bann the damn things