Help, I Think I Need Tie Bars!

[Guest roundy]

Having just got back from the Thames Valley meet and having to hold on for dear life I am convinced I fancy fitting tie rods!!! I have'nt a clue where to start other than the thread's I've been reading. My main problem is getting them made....I have no idea!!!!

 

Can anyone help!? (A chap said he may have some last night but I've forgottin his name!)

[Graham B]

Chris

I drove really slow on the way home. !!! You seemed to follow OK.

It may have been a bit skippy on the way there, as I didn't hang about too much and your suspension is a little hard ( being polite).

 

Nice roads Eh ???

 

Get it set up so you can follow around the Theale roundabout.

 

See you soon

Graham

[Guest roundy]

Does anyone have any suitable for a 3a...or can someone make them???

 

Pleeeease!!!!

[enforcer]

Are you sure you don't just need some nice new (heavy duty) bushes on the anti roll bar / track control arm?

[Guest roundy]

It's all just far too stiff! - From what I can see tie bars are the way to go!!!

[enforcer]

Tie bars aren't going to 'soften' the suspension, but they will firm up the forward/backward movement of the track control arm - something which can usually be achieved by replacing the bushes

 

Some photos / info in this thread may help:

 

Tie rods etc

 

Actually, having thought about it, provided the tie rod is fitted to the chassis with a ball joint to permit up/down movement, this would free you from the stiffness of the sierra ARB.

 

I'll get me coat

[Guest roundy]

Fitting tie bars will create a more "independant" set up and therefore produce better handling (from what I've read) !

 

I just have no idea on how to even think about starting to make them!!!!

 

Would be handy if there's anyone on here that has some knocking around or makes them!

 

[Snapperpaul]

Tie bars are a well known 3a modification as the sierra roll bar is so thick that the suspension just does not move, also the springs that come with the original kit are about 180 per inch and 150 is better.

I have gone the half way house route until after SVA with the anti roll bar milled down to half thickness in the middle section

 

Roundy, i have photos and drawings of some tie bar solutions, not on this computer but if you message me your email i will try and send them

[Jez Morton]

You could try and move the shock mounts outward I did this on a MK1 S7, moved them about 3-4" on wishbone and suspension actually started moving.

 

Jez

[Big Jim]

various pictures of tie bars on our website

[geoff shep]

If you follow Big Jim's link you will find links to Dave Andrews' site (HERE). Big Jim has talked about bending them to clear the tyres, I was wondering if they could be machined from the anti-roll bar itself ie chop it to length and thread the end for a spherical joint.

[Guest robinj66]

I'm sure I've seen pictures of that

[Snapperpaul]

I was wondering if they could be machined from the anti-roll bar itself ie chop it to length and thread the end for a spherical joint.

 

Thought of this myself and may give it a try, however the anti rollbar material is damed hard and it took two milling bits to get it to half size so don't know how easy it would be to cut a thread. You cannot put in a lathe as iot is bent so would have to drill and tap an internal thread or hand cut an external.

[miikae]

I cut my ARB in bits last winter as can be seen on some pics in my garage plus how i did it , all by hand except the drilling (pillar drill) , taping the threads was the easy bit .

 

Mike