Help By A Newbie,power Upgrade Options?

[Guest Rallyreason]

Just purchased my first kitcar. A GBS Zero with 1.6 pinto and ZX6R carbs etc. Was told this was pulling 117HP at Rear wheels!(I have a print out stating 117hp)

(Was a passenger during purchase test drive in wet conditions only)

 

Took it for its first blast today. Weather cold, roads a little damp in places. I was expecting the ride of my life. here How dissapointed i was. There is NO chance that the engine is producing what i was told. Contacted the previous owner. ( out come still to be confirmed).

 

The next question i have, which i am sure has been asked previously, is which way now?

What are my options to get this kit feel like it is alive?

Like everyone, i can only afford so much. Therefore any advice to help me move forward is very appriciated.

 

PS. Apart from the dissapointing power it was a blast to drive.

[richardm6994]

Quickest power upgrade would be to ditch the 1.6 and drop a 2.0ltr pinto in. There is lots of power to be had from the 2ltr without spending a fortune! 150+ bhp ain't that costly from a 2ltr.

 

Next up from that would be a 2ltr zetec but then your budget will need to go up as well.

 

Personal opinion would be not to bother spending money on the 1.6

 

 

[speedtripledan]

my 2.0l pinto was putting out 124bhp wheels 150odd crankthat was with a fr32cam vernier pulley bestek ignition inj head bike cabs and felpro head gasket a 1,6 with 117bhp at the wheels doubt it ?

[richardm6994]

Could be 117 at the flywheel?

[Snapperpaul]

Not a hope in hell

 

[Snapperpaul]

Not a hope in hell

 

[Guest whiz]

there is only a couple of engines that the zero deserves and that is a zetec on carbs or throttle bodies or an ST like mines the car goes like *bleep* of a shovel and handles like its on rails

[Snapperpaul]

2.0L out of the box will give you 25% more

Get one with an injection head put a thinner gasket on and a better cam and you should see 130bhp for effectively the price of a cam kit, that will be swift. Now you'll have 65% more than a standard 1.6

Getting anymore out of a Pinto needs bigger valves a more radical cam and some serious setting up, probably 160 to 170bhp being the limit for a home build

[Guest mower man]

Where the 117 my little ponies ?117 on the deck is 140+at the crank which is 2 l country ,depending on budget a2.0/2.1with the mods mentioned or Zetec /dura tech the latter being moderatly expensive my ops only mower man

[Guest airevalley]

I've just bought a 2b , has a 2.1 pinto , with a high lift cam in and a re-jetted webber . I have a print out that rekons 127 bhp .( allegedly ) .

sounds a bit high to me but no idea if thats at flywheel or wheels ,

unfortunatly it aint anywhere near the road yet so cant tell you if its quick enough or not . But I will do one day ( hopefully)

[knights_templar]

I guess someones got the rolling road figures from one of those chav places that tweak their results so it looks like a 1.1 Saxo has 250bhp

 

apply brakes on run down, and you can have any BHP you wan't

[Guest Tim Norman]

Horsepower numbers are for the pub. Its how it handes that counts. Obviously if it handles and stops well then more horses and torgues are always a welcome addition. :-)

[Guest Rallyreason]

Thanks for all your replies.

 

I gathered a 2L pinto would be the easiest upgrade.

 

The Duratec/Zetec looks the most interesting.

 

Are their any other choices? What about the Toyota 4AGE or K series?

 

If i am going to go to the trouble of swapping engines, i might as well go the whole way and do it only once? Unless anyone has a sorted pinto going cheap

 

If any one has done any of the above upgrades, i would be very gratefull to hear about your experiences and wheather it was worth the hassle/cost?

[Guest Rallyreason]

CMA- Skill shouldn't be a issue.Spent first 10 years of my working life as a trained motor technician. However i have been away from the trade for over 13 years, so my knowledge is dated.

 

I have always been a fan of light weight high revving engines rather than the heavier torquier engines.

 

Do you have any idea when the next meet is?

[Guest Rallyreason]

CMA- Thanks.