Windscreen

[zhap135 0]

Hello anyone, I'm prepping my car for IVA - an old S7

I'm trying to replace a windscreen - the old toughened one got broke. I want to put laminate in, and have found a supplier, but I want to know about stamps. The stamp that the IVA mentions is E43 (or is as I understand the manual. The stamp the supplier will put on is EN14449/3/SG. Does anyone know whether that is equivalent, and acceptable for IVA?

I know MK do a screen kit for about £500, but sourcing the laminate is about a 10th of the price.

[theduck 857]

MK Screen would be unlikely to fit an S7.

Cant comment on markings required, but I do have an S7 screen and frame should you need one.

[zhap135 0]

Thanks for responding!

And thanks for the gen on the MK screen - that was a reservation I had as they seemed to be shaped to fit a curved scuttle.

Your screen sounds interesting. May I ask is it toughened or laminate?

Cheers

A

[theduck 857]

Good question, I assume toughened as BS mark is BS857/2 1967 and no mention of laminated, although I only peeked through the bubblewrap

Edited December 2, 2019 by theduck

[zhap135 0]

Well our friend Wiki tells me that it could mean either - B83 1967 is safety glass in land vehicles. The /2 might signify which - I'll have to do some more digging. If its the original from the S7 it's probably toughened - not sure that they did laminate. That might get me through the IVA - I'll have to check. Can always put my own lam in later.

How much were you wanting, and are you able to post?

 

[theduck 857]

Yeh I can post, its still wrapped in bubble wrap from when i moved house.

Not sure how much its worth tbh, £50?

You dont want some wet weather gear and doors while I'm at do you? 

[zhap135 0]

Will you include the postage in the £50?

I'm good for weather gear  Sounds like you've some spring cleaning to do!

The BS number is current, I just need to confirm that the DVSA people will accept it and won't insist on ECE43.

 

[theduck 857]

Haha yeh, I've got a few bits I'll be needing to clear out, going to be making a list at the weekend.

Send me a PM once you have confirmed if it will be any good and we'll sort it out.

[zhap135 0]

Great stuff, I'm just pinging an email toe the DVSA to get some advice - hopefully they'll be able to confirm. I'll give you a shout when I hear back from them.

Great speaking to you Duck

Cheers

A

[nelmo 237]

You don't need a screen on for IVA, just leave it off. If you have a screen, you'll have to have working 2 speed wipers, demisting vents - the works. And they'll check all that for sharp edges. 

[MarkBzero 295]

I agree with Nelmo don't fit windscreen for IVA.

[brumster 706]

I went through great lengths to go through IVA properly with a screen, and it's perfectly doable. Like you say, the important part is supposed to be the marking of the screen with an E marking, in particular the roman numerals to the edge of the circle denote whether the screen is toughened (I) or laminated (II or III).

Cost around £100 for the screen from a template I had to send to the chap (laminated).

I do wonder whether the IVA guy even checked it, to be honest, I *think* he did but I wonder whether it was close inspection or just a glance for an E mark and that was it

[zhap135 0]

23 hours ago, nelmo said:

You don't need a screen on for IVA, just leave it off. If you have a screen, you'll have to have working 2 speed wipers, demisting vents - the works. And they'll check all that for sharp edges. 

Thanks, that did occur to me. The manual says that if fixings are obvious it will be trated as if the screen is missing, although it didn't define fixings. I got the car as a part complete a while back, and the cuttle ha holes for the brackets, and for the demisters and wipers. apart from looking a mess, I was worried that the inspectors would simply say the screen is missing. HAve you heard of that happening?

[zhap135 0]

13 hours ago, brumster said:

I went through great lengths to go through IVA properly with a screen, and it's perfectly doable. Like you say, the important part is supposed to be the marking of the screen with an E marking, in particular the roman numerals to the edge of the circle denote whether the screen is toughened (I) or laminated (II or III).

Cost around £100 for the screen from a template I had to send to the chap (laminated).

I do wonder whether the IVA guy even checked it, to be honest, I *think* he did but I wonder whether it was close inspection or just a glance for an E mark and that was it

LOL, yeah, I could just wing it, but my luck dictates that I'd get the thorough chap! I see that you have the proper E mark, and not just a BS. Do you remember your supplier?

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13 hours ago, MarkBzero said:

I agree with Nelmo don't fit windscreen for IVA.

Thanks, yes it's an option. I was just saying to Nelmo that I'm not sure that I could wing it with the current condition of the scuttle