2.0L Type 9 Gbox Swap For V6 Version

[steve in stockport]

Caterham or A Frame Engineering

[jaimo]

With spacer and this

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=311402305069&alt=web

With standard 2.0 litre type 9 just basically moves bellhousing forward with new prop or gearbox moving

Make fitting zetec easier just need to make spacer the difference between longer and standard shorter shaft

 

Count me in rich

Come on you know you want to

Edited August 12, 2015 by jaimo

[richardm6994]

if you're messing around with spacer plates and bellhousings.....you may as well just jump both feet first and stick a V8 on the end of your type 9

[jaimo]

would nt want to reign on your parade rich

but a spacer plate made for standard type 9 using standard box and bellhousing but spaced using the longer shaft as v6 but made for standard 18 spline would make zetec etc etc easier what sort of price would it be if you interested

[jaimo]

sorry dan for topic hijack

[Guest Ian & Carole]

would nt want to reign on your parade rich

but a spacer plate made for standard type 9 using standard box and bellhousing but spaced using the longer shaft as v6 but made for standard 18 spline would make zetec etc etc easier what sort of price would it be if you interested

As I said earlier all input shafts are 23 spline.

[Guest 2b cruising]

It not really that important Ian. LoL

PML.

Edited August 12, 2015 by 2b cruising

[Guest Ian & Carole]

It not really that important Ian. LoL

PML.

No I know Ken but when one person is talking about 19 spline and then about 18 spline it can start confusion which is never good in a complicated issue like this.

 

It is also a folly to put a brand new input shaft into an old gearbox and expect them to mesh without issue.

 

Just my thoughts though so I will but out of this one.

Edited August 13, 2015 by Ian & Carole

[jaimo]

no ian your input is good i never thought about old and new

maybe just use v6 box with spacer but what bellhousing would you use as v6 one different match up to pinto or zetec does it

[Jez Morton]

Not to rain on anybody's parade but when I looked at fitting a V6 box to my 2B the ratios just didn't give a big enough improvement to make it worth the effort. The first 3 gears are 8% higher and 4 and 5 are the same. Using one of the speed calc programs out there I would gain 2.5mph in first, 4.7mph in second and 6.8 in third, this is at 6k rpm with a 3.9 diff.

Ratios are 3.65, 1.97, 1.37, 1.0 and 0.82 for 2.0l.

Ratios are 3.36, 1.81, 1.26, 1.0 and 0.82 for V6.

Going for close ratio box would be the way to go but at around a grand it's just too much money for me.

[Snapperpaul]

I did a piece for the Hoodies mag a while back explaining the process

In essence it is this

Straight 4 bell housing fits on V6 box using the spacer this makes the whole lot 30mm longer

The box in an S3 can only go back 1m or so you then move the engine mounts 20mm towards the front

Exhaust manifold may hit the side exit hole and the rear exhaust mount needs moving a tad

That's it

Input and output splines are the same on both boxes

You will note that the Caterham spacer has a cutout for the V6 box lays haft bearing

Retro ford does not

[Grim]

As I said earlier all input shafts are 23 spline.

There's some terminology misuse in this thread. 23 spline, 18 or 19 tooth gears

 

Andy

[speedtripledan]

Its the one tooth that makes the difference from poor ratios to a nice spread my car was transformed by it and definatly quicker

[jaimo]

so which is best dan 18 or 19

[cb750]

Dan, I know it's not a swap but have you seen this one on eBay item 271953818950 ?